wv4West Vincent must think I have some super secret radar when it comes to that municipality.  I don’t.  It just seems to be the land of dumb stuff. But given the mental midgets who govern over there, is it any wonder? (And lest West Vincent officials get their panties in a knot over this post they can thank the public info that let this stuff loose. Yes, municipalities like this love to live under the radar, but they might as well accept that through their own actions this Warped Mayberry is now on the radar of many…)wv5

When State Senator Any Dinniman posted an article about fracking and stuff on his facebook page I learned what I thought was I don’t know what in West Vincent sandwiched between dense residential development and playing fields for children was indeed some kind  fracking or gas line thing.  So close. So close. That is kind of freaky if you ask me. I would never want to be so close to something like that. The thing is although we might need the gas, you don’t know really how the whole process can affect people that live close by, can you?


Senator Dinniman had a simple message:

We cannot allow natural gas pipeline companies to run indiscriminately throughout our open spaces, pristine waterways and backyards. In Chester County, we value the environment. And there are enough people who have the skills, talents, and financial resources to resist encroaches done insensibly and without proper community dialogue

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No matter WHERE you stand on fracking and those pipe lines, you can’t disagree with that.  Here is the article:

In Chesco town, opposition helped stop proposed gas pipeline

By Aubrey Whelan, Inquirer Staff Writer
Posted: March 12, 2013

Amy Shenk had never joined a protest movement, never organized neighbors, never passed around petitions or printed signs.

And then last year, a man from a gas company came knocking at the door of Shenk’s home in Warwick Township, in the rural north end of Chester County.

What he showed her was a tentative map of a proposal from three companies to run a “Commonwealth pipeline” right through Hopewell Big Woods, a 73,000-acre forest that local residents fought hard for years to preserve. He wanted permission to survey her land.

She balked. A movement was born, and however reluctantly, Shenk became a leader.

“I am not an activist,” she said. “I’ve never been involved in anything like this before.”

Gas pipelines are hardly new to the county, and plans for the Commonwealth pipeline are on hold indefinitely. But residents of the tiny township and public officials have mobilized nonetheless, launching a website, recruiting environmental experts to study potential impacts in the Big Woods, and dotting the roads in and around Warwick with bright red signs that read “Stop Pipelines Here”…..Chester County is the venue for several pipelines and two compressor stations, in West Vincent Township and Downingtown….

But future pipeline projects could face stiff resistance in Chester County, lawmakers have warned.

State Sen. Andy Dinniman (D., Chester) has introduced three bills designed to increase oversight of pipeline construction and is sending a letter inviting gas company representatives to speak with community members next week, he said.

And then there is the latest from Chickenman, hence the title of his post “sigh”.  I am pleased to note that a lot of people who once thought Chickenman was “scary” now understand that it is the truth he puts forth that is scary.  His truth comes from public records and public sources.  Soon those friends of West Vincent supervisors will undoubtedly start putting up flyers in the post office again. Of course, they do so at their own risk because that is utterly illegal IMHO.  And if you are a victim of these flyers you can and should turn them over to postal inspectors to run through crime labs. Postal inspectors don’t play.

Anyway, here is what chickenman is saying and you can be your own judge but IMHO West Vincent is playing Russian Roulette with the environment again.  But then again, in West Vincent it is always about who you know.

Anyway Chickenman’s missive of 3/22/2013:

Hi. A new business is opening in West Vincent Township. This is great news for the Township, a new business. Here is a copy of a brochure from the business.WestVinc1Seems you’ll be able to buy all of your hard landscaping supplies here. It is located on the far west side of West Vincent Township on route 401 just before getting into East Nantmeal Township.It looks to me like there may be a problem with this establishment, though. Here is a picture of the operation.                         WestVinc2What kind of problems, you may ask? All the trees next to the stream have been torn out in order to set the concrete barrier walls. It looks like the containment bins are too close to the stream. If mulch is going in those concrete bins, the drains would spill directly into the stream, which is not allowed. The CFO of the company that owns this property was a member of the Sustainability Committee in 2012. I wonder how the other members feel about this? Sounds a little like Pam Brown, doesn’t it? Of course, those are just the environmental issues. Then there is the problem of this project is being built in a residential area. While the trucking company has the right to be there from a previous zoning hearing board decision, I don’t think there is an allowance for a landscape supply or retail establishment. That would be another commercial use on top of the one already granted in an area that commercial isn’t allowed. This would be a violation of the Township Zoning.Why am I talking about this issue? Because it involves Katharine “Kit” Trolier. Kit Trollier, formerly Kit Greiner, is the CFO of Greiner Inc. the company that is expanding the business operations and is part of the family that owns that land. Kit is also a Ken Miller handpicked member of the Zoning Hearing Board in West Vincent Township. She is a Judge that decides people’s property rights within the township.You may remember Kit Trolier. She ran for Committeewoman twice and once for Supervisor. Every attempt was unsuccessful. But that doesn’t mean Kit Trolier isn’t without friends. While running for political office, she was supported by Supervisors Ken Miller and Zoe Perkins. During her run for Supervisor, she partnered with David Brown who was successful at becoming a West Vincent Supervisor. Kit was on a board for a company that West Vincent Township solicitor Steve Siana own. She bought the property where she resides from Steven Siana. One of her best friends is fellow zoning hearing board member Carl Brachwitz. And, I repeat, she herself is a member of the same Zoning Hearing Board. She is a former member of the Sustainability Committee and also a member of the Trash Task Force. She is well connected.From the township minutes Jan 7, 2013:Trash Task Force appointments and terms (1 year term to expire on December 31st of the listed year): Steven Bazil, 2014 Eugene Briggs, 2014 Chip Farnham, 2014 Penny Furgess-Hodgkins, 2014 Peter Gafer, 2014 Bob Kaiser, 2014 Ted Otteni, 2014 John Rieder, 2014 Harry Saunders, 2014 Kate Stanton, 2014 Kit Trolier, 2014 Michael Whitehead, 2014What will come of this issue now that this information is in the public? Will Ken Miller’s administration be able to protect his friend? For the environmental issues, it could go either way. After all, Supervisor Miller is probably the biggest polluter in West Vincent after Exxon/Mobil and he has been able to somehow skirt the PA DEP. ( think it’s doubtful. But I could be wrong. After all, this is West Vincent Township.As far as avoiding the township issues, DL Fleck still operates illegally, in direct conflict with a Chester County Court of Common Pleas Order. The township doesn’t enforce the ruling or regulations when it involves friends. Kit Trolier has been a good lapdog for the Miller administration, even defending the motives for the Eminent Domain actions against the Ludwig’s Corner Horseshow grounds. There may be some posturing but in the end, it is doubtful that the zoning will be enforced. After all, Kit (Greiner) Trolier is the final enforcer at the township level.Here is a screenshot saved from www.goodgovernmentforwestvincent, Kit Trolier’s campaign website, a website which was removed after David Brown was caught contradicting his campaign statements on issues AFTER he was Supervisor. It shows she has been CFO for Greiner Inc. for almost 20 years.WestVinc3Best wishesChickenman 

7 thoughts on “sigh….

  1. It”s too bad that again you have chosen to accentuate “Chickenman’s skewed point of view!
    Dave has been wrong on many occaisions and he’s wrong again! This property has been zoned to permit this type of business since the mid 80’s…..Kit has been involved in the positive aspects of WVT for many years which have been in direct conflict of the anti’s of WVT..Barry DeLiberate
    and Dave who have had issues with WVT and have been found wrong in their suits against WVT (which have cost thousands of dollars to the the real taxpayers of WVT)…(Dave, Barry, how much have you paid?) Dave, did you pad your expenses to WVT?
    Let’s hear what they have to say!
    I dare you to publish this…..Chickenman (Dave?) won’t publish my responses…why?
    Larry Westfall….longtime resident of WVT

    • Yet another comment from:
      Larry Westfall

      Dear Larry,

      Wow you just don’t get it. A blog = opinion = first amendment rights.

      I would be careful with what you are saying. Let us start with Chickenman. I do not know if Chickenman is a man, woman, or martian. I also don’t care. I know who Chickenman ISN’T and that is Dave and Barry and many others. I also know now that you are among those people who are pro-current administration who go around like an Upcountry Gestapo trying to put anyone who doesn’t share your misty views of reality out of business and out of West Vincent. After all if you accomplish that it leaves more room for trash, right? Do you like to post nasty things in post offices too? Would your fingerprints be found on those little missives of love and joy?

      Chickenman posts based on public documents from various governmental entities so I guess they are all wrong too? And do not get me started with interpretive zoning – as in it all depends on who you know out there, right? Whatever, not debating it with a crazy ankle biter who in addition to his other charms likes to villify innocent people and attack women.

      I can’t help it if you are miserable and are in love with Ken Miller and his little toadie Clare Quinn as there is no accounting for taste is there?

      West Vincent does dumb ass stuff that draws attention to it and the township administration and politicians. And that includes not keeping you muzzled and on a leash. But the thing is this: when Neanderthals like you start posting comments in the middle of the night something must be REALLY wrong as in people are very nervous that change and sunshine might really come to town to stay, right?

      If you feel YOUR accusations mentioned here are trus, how about you produce documentation in an open forum? Otherwise pick up your tinker toys and go home.

      And don’t “dare” me to post anything. It is a privilige not a right for your comments to go up.

      Buh bye were done here.

  2. Mr. Westfall: I have never done anything to you. Why are you attacking me? I had no internet service for over 2 months, so I guess I am not Chickenman, I have never had a suit in West Vincent like you said. Also, I have no issues with West Vincent. I owe no money to West Vincent. I have not cost the taxpayers anything.I am not against the development of the former township building. They paid a handsome price and have a use by right. Did I pad my bills when I worked for you? You are a liar. You have slandered me in a public forum. Why are you doing this? I have enough health issues to worry about without this nonsense that is now to become a legal issue.
    I hope you can support these allegations or you better have a good lawyer.

  3. Further Mr. Westfall:
    My attorney advises me that since your allegations have now been published, you are now open for a libel defamation law suit which I intend to fully pursue. You have crossed the line. I am a private citizen. I have protection under civil law.

    You are hearby on notice to produce:

    1. Trial date, Case (s) or Docket number for the suit you allege I had with
    WVT at the tax payers expense.
    2. Document any outstanding monies you claim I owe WVT.
    3. Document the invoices you allege I have “padded”.
    4. Show evidence that I am in fact “Chickenman” as you have told people.
    1. Admit you lied about me relevant to the above
    2. Disclose your source of information.

    Finally, I was without internet service for over 2 months recently when I had health issues. Obviously there was no such interuption with Chickenman.
    I have corresponded with this person on occasion, but have no idea who it is. I am actually flattered that you think I am that smart to writh like he/she does. I have yet to hear of anything that is not factual, but I do not see it all.

    I will no longer tolerate your unjustified abuse of my reputation or your attacks on my credibility. I have lived here 46 years, I have serious health problems and don’t need it.

    I will stop buy to see you if you do not respond prior to having my lawyer file.

    David Monteith

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