the worm turns in horse rescue?

DSC_0004Is it true what they are saying on the Thoroughbred Breeders/Owners/Trainers Hall of Shame Facebook Page?

Has there been a cat fight over horses and has Barbara Luna from Turning for Home really removed all the rescued race horses she doled out to  Off the Track Thoroughbred Rescue? This all started on this page yesterday when people noted  horses were on the move.

Then I saw this earlier this morning:

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Of course there is reported drama over who actually “quit” and who was “fired” and are you surprised? What is it they say about truth being optional for these people?

So what the what?  And if Barbara Luna and Turning for Home are moving horses does that mean all these people worried about all these horses for all this time were right?  And if Barbara Luna is moving horse around like pawns on a chessboard so they finally have their paperwork together?  And what does Barbara Luna and Turning for Home have to say about all of this?  After all Off the Track Thoroughbred Rescue never magically just clapped their hands and twitched their nose for horses to appear, right?  So what does Barbara Luna have to say for herself?  Does she track all the stipend money doled out along with the horses?

And where is LAPs on this?  You know the mythical Large Animal Protection Society?  Do they have a handle YET on horse rescue in Chester County or are they pretending that probelms with horse rescues in Chester County isn’t really like problems with puppy mills in Lancaster County?

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And speaking of LAPS, can someone please explain to me this brand new horse rescue over in Oxford that popped up on Facebook and loves everyone but doesn’t take donations?  What rescue doesn’t need donations? For real? Are they on some unknown DuPont estate with a giant endowment running them or are they over maybe on the fan heiress’s farm?

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And here I thought Triple D was only Diners, Drive Ins, and Dives.

This of course begs the question once more of how many horse rescues exist in Chester County and how are they regulated?  I ask because my horse friends tell me one sick horse coming into a barn can put the entire barn at risk.  Other animal rescues are regulated so how exactly do horse rescues get regulated?

Finally, someone sent me this photo.  They described it as “horse training” at a horse rescue? So are these kids even old enough to drive or vote that are handling this horse? Looks dangerous, but what do I know, right?

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Horse rescue remains a great mystery of life to me.  I just wish anyone seemed to know what the rules and regulations were, right?

UPDATE! they found the missing little pony…

3.20.2013 MISSING PONY FOUND – This is up on Netposse.com: (they posted this on their Facebook page )

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I am very happy the innocent pony has been found….in Port Jervis, NY which I learned is on the Delaware River in Orange County, NY – which looks pretty- it is apparently where NY, NJ, and PA meet.

I am however finding myself conflicted on this whole thing.  The netposse report indicates the pony was missing for a month.  So how do you not know where one of your animals is for a month unless you are on some ginormous ranch in Montana?

Who is the barn owner who sold a horse without paperwork?  Is that even legal?  And who is this family who was leasing the pony?  How do you just up and ditch a pony you are basically renting?  And if you were leasing a pony or horse that was beloved to your children would  you want it some place close to you or farther away?

Again, I don’t own horses, so I don’t know.  However can it be said that Ms. JB should have take away from this?  Can she understand now why people who adopt horses from her rescue get frustrated? Worried? Upset?

I noticed that there was a cash reward offered for safe return of the pony?  Maybe she can pay back some of what she owes to these other people out there who are upset with her rescue “business”?

And for the record, I truly want to believe all of this played out as Ms. JB said because can you say it would just be too awful to contemplate anything else because children are involved as well as an innocent pony?

Seriously St. Francis must be looking out here.  After all, that report above indicates the pony went missing a month and two days ago.  Truly, it is a miracle.

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From before:

pony 7So yesterday was a flurry of horsification.  I posted “carol’s story”  and a child’s pony went missing.

Yesterday it was noted that Off the Track Thoroughbred Rescue seemed off-line both on website and Facebook page.  Now it’s back. It’s back with a missing pony notice:

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I also saw this on Camelot Horse Weekly:

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So we all understand – this stuff is posted in a multitude of places with multiple photos publicly.   I am showing cropped screen shots because I do not want to post clear photos of someone’s kids even to help them find a lost pony without their permission.  Especially given who this pony went missing from, capice?

Today this missing pony is posted everywhere and the chatter is the pony was being “free” leased (no clue what that is) somewhere.   Anyway, so there was some sort of lease arrangement and then supposedly the people leasing her did not pay barn fees or something?  And then the barn owner sold the pony?

So wait, stop.  How can someone just sell a pony without paperwork? Aren’t little ponies supposed to have those coggins things too?  Now the barn owner who sold the pony and the leasing family are not named anywhere, and well wouldn’t you consider naming names to get your pet back? If this is all true, don’t they have accountability?

Anyway, I am going to be the bigger person and the SOLE reason I am posting this is somewhere out there is a very upset little girl, and for the sake of the poor pony.  This is what was posted with the photo on Camelot Horse Weekly:

This is Toodles, She is a small 12.2h pony that was being leased in PA, the owner just found out she was sold wihtout her knowing and is desperately searching to find the beloved pony, please keep an eye out for toodles. More Pictures can be seen at Jessica Troxell Basciano facebook page and you can also contact her with ANY information.

Toodles Last seen in Kennett Square breech of contract sold. At New Holland and then sold by Don Martin at New Holland outside. If you have seen this pony or if she is in your barn Please contact Jessica. She is offering a reward for her safe return.

The idea of any creature being sold anywhere near New Holland makes my blood run cold.

I do however have to say one thing and that is how do you not know where your animals are? Nevertheless, if you have seen this pony, the pony should go home to that child, right?  Two innocents should not get caught up in some funky snarl, right?

But since the woman who is missing this pony runs a horse rescue where people have been upset on how animals changed hands,are occasionally missing paper work like health records and coggins, shouldn’t she maybe be more understanding of people and their needs with regards to horses? As in not only keeping the horses the way they deserve to be kept but keeping good and accurate records too?

So I am going to ask all of you something: in spite of whose pony this is, if you have seen it, contact her.  Do the right thing for the sake of a child and an innocent animal.

I will say however the timing of this is rather cute.  And that is opinion, and opinion is a God-given right.

I will also say this: something needs to give on how horses and ponies change hands at New Holland. 

UPDATE: This like all the other things of a horse nature is swirling around and around.  Some of the pony photos have been shared widely on FB which means people are seeing comments about it.  This was sent to me.  I will say I am trying not to judge and I feel sorry for the little girl who now has no pony and I truly hope the pony is o.k. and safe.   I hope that pony finds it’s way home.

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apparently it is “fugly” out there with horse rescue?

Someone sent me the link to a site called “FuglyBlog” and more specifically a link:

http://fuglyblog.com/2010/09/26/another-chance-to-avoid-actually-working/

But there is something fugly and funky going on about this website because for a fewdragrope from fugly blog minutes it came up and then it went down.

So the reason I was sent this post  was so I could see the apparent systemic problems with horse rescue within the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Can we say it isn’t just Jessica Basciano, Barbara Luna, Turning for Home and Off the Track Thoroughbred Rescue that people need to have their eyes open with?

This manure pile that is horse rescue seems to have a lot of whinnying going on, yet the more I read about it, the more I wonder why PA’s Attorney General isn’t looking at inconsistencies and oddities in all of this from the end of those who are registered in PA as charities to criminal investigations having to do with animal rescues?  From how the horses leave the track and where they go to how the horse rescues run and if they meet to burden for animal protection and welfare let alone how these businesses and non-profits run doesn’t it just seem the questions are layered with questions?noassfqhamare from the fugly blog

And let me be clear, I am not just speaking about the two rescues blogged about up here before, but the entire business of horse rescue in Pennsylvania.  I heard a tale yesterday of a situation going on at another Chester County barn that seems just nutty.  I don’t own horses, never have, never will.  But am I wrong in saying that it seems the only consistency about horse rescue in Pennsylvania are the many inconsistencies? Is it just me who seems to feel that if there are hard and fast rules, there seems to be a lot of gray area for interpretation?

And lets talk about the group that is supposed to be helping being the eyes and ears of right, ok? LAPS or Large Animal Protection Society? I have been told repeatedly by those in animal rescue in general that these folks have badges or something?  That they can go in and do surprise inspections and if need be, remove animals? But is their judgement clouded because of personal relationships their ranks may or may not have with persons in the groups they are supposed to keep an eye on? (And before someone in LAPs gets in a lather, sorry but it is not beyond the realm of reasonable to ask questions is it?)  And what of all the people worried about horses in Chester County who have a hard time with LAPs personnel? Are they all bad people out to bad mouth LAPs or are they merely good people who keep going back to the well that is LAPs hoping they will actually do their job?

LAPs has on their own website:

LAPS Can Assist Other Humane Agencies

In addition to investigating reports of cruelty to large animals, prosecution offenders, and rehabilitating and placing animals in new homes, LAPS is always ready and willing to provide information and support to other agencies both within and out-of-state.  We have provided people in other counties with the means and knowledge to encourage their local law enforcement officials to step in when the local humane societies do not, and have many times supported the State Police in their investigations in areas where the humane agencies do not provide service.

Also, we are glad to help anyone wishing to organize a humane society in an area not currently serviced by one.   We have “been there, done that” and are more than willing to share the information you will need to get started.  Our knowledge of the way the system works has been hard-won over the years since 1988 we have been in existence.  If you need help, just call!

Pennsylvania’s law governing animal cruelty, Statute 5511.

Pennsylvania’s law governing disposal of dead animals

Pennsylvania’s law governing the marketing of animals.

So LAPs if all this kerfuffle and conundrum concerning horse rescue has you down, can’t you all turn to other rescue groups for assistance?  Like the Humane Society and the ASPCA?

Anyway, back to what prompted this post – this Fugly Blog.  I pulled the cache on this one post (it is a couple of years old).  I turned the cache into a PDF that I found a fascinating and illuminating read.  (see upload of Fugly Blog cache ) It is about yet another horse rescue, Another Chance 4 Horses.

I will note that I went to www.GuideStar.org and pulled the most recent 990s I could find on Turning for Home, LAPs, and Another Chance for Horses.  I am posting them as they are public record and they are registered non-profits.  There are no 990s to be posted on Off The Track Thoroughbred Rescue because has anyone ever been able to actually find a business registered, a non-profit registered, or is it just a fictitious name registration?  Maybe that is why the judgement I found based on that recent court date is lodged against Ms. B? (See the links below, you can check the documents out yourself.)

Every time I say I am done with this cautionary tale the more that crops up.  Water seeks its own level, mold spreads, choose your analogy I have but one final question and that is when did it stop being about what is right for the horses?

Links:

Fugly Blog cache

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turning for home PA 2011 990

LAPS PA 990 2011

Another Chance for Horse 2010 990

CBS Baltimore: Animal Rights Groups Angry After Sick Horses Found On Frederick Co. Farm (“A Pennsylvania man faces animal cruelty charges for the death of one of his horses in Frederick County.”

I think a non-profit rescue called the “Foxie G Foundation”  took in some of these poor beasts and apparently same person as involved in that case last year in Adam’s County  a guy named James Houseman. It is like hop scotch with horses. )

ABC27.com: 24 sickly horses seized from Dauphin Co. farm Posted:
Jan 14, 2013 3:47 PM EST
Monday, January 14, 2013 3:47 PM ESTUpdated: Jan 14, 2013 4:39 PM ESTonday, January 14, 2013 4:39 PM EST

By Sari Heidenreich – email (PALMYRA, Pa. (WHTM) -Twenty four horses, including four who are pregnant, were seized from a Dauphin County farm by the Humane Society of Harrisburg last week….Earlier this month, Kaunas said this is the first type of horse hoarding case she has seen.)

And from the LAPs website, “A Horse’s Prayer”:

Feed me, water and care for me,

and when the day’s work is done,

provide me with a shelter,

a clean dry stall large enough

for me to lie down in comfort.

Talk to me, your voice often means

as much to me as the reins.

Pet me sometime that I may serve you

more gladly and learn to love you.

Shoe me properly that I may serve you in comfort.

Never strike, beat, or kick me when I don’t understand what

you want, but give me a chance to understand you.

And finally oh master,

when my youthful strength is gone,

do not turn me out to starve or freeze,

or sell me to some cruel owner

to be slowly tortured or stoned to death,

but do thou, my master,

take my life in the kindest way, and

your God will reward you here and hereafter.

You will not consider me irreverent if I ask this

in the name of Him who was born in a stable…

Amen