Just got back from East Goshen Farmers’ Market and it was packed and FABULOUS today. I have some beautiful produce and I bought a gorgeous Cinquefoil a/k/a Potentilla from Brogue Hydroponics.
But let us move on to other markets. Namely the hop scotching farmers’ market. You know, first it was at Anselma Mill (where it did so wonderfully well), then like magic it was going to move to West Vincent, only it wouldn’t really be in West Vincent, it would be in Upper Uwchlan. And then there was drama because nothing with West Vincent in the name can ever go smoothly or without drama.
Mind you the drama and issues were self-induced and I feel no pity to anyone but the poor farmers and food purveyors and residents they had so confused. Why do I say that? Simple: if the West Vincent Farmers Market had done things the right way, versus the West Vincent way there might actually be a farmers market in West Vincent now. D’oh.
So when the West Vincent Farmers Market Page did the heavy sigh and the itty bitty violins of pity came out today, come on now people you did it to yourselves.
I am glad the market is back where it belongs at Anselma Mill which is a REALLY cool place if you have never been.
Enjoy the photos. Little birdies took them for me. Not chickens, but birdies……Also noticed no Birchrunville Hills Farms Taste Our Feet at Anselma? Didn’t they used to be there? Also heard they were no longer a producer for the Phoenixville Farmers Market? Is the popularity of those overpriced food stuffs waning?
A final note so I am not farmers market incorrect, the Anselma Market is once again the Anselma Market, right? It is not something goofy like the West Vincent Farmers Market at Anselma, is it?
Anyway, no matter which market you prefer, thanks for getting out and supporting local farmers!
There has been a lot of discussion about “things” in West Vincent again, and once again the knee jerk reaction of someone is to post things which are tantamount to bullying at a minimum in a building that functions as a United States Post Office.
Posting harassing things to bully private citizens in a building designated a United States Post Office is like mailing the same things through the mail – it is not quite legal and that is why things like this are given to United States Postal inspectors, isn’t it? Maybe it is past time to bump this up a notch?
So supporters, followers, politicians, township employees, whomever here is the 411: David Monteith is not and never has been “Chickenman”. And Chickenman is not the one who started the inquiry into the problematic West Vincent Farmers Market. Ordinary people did. I have looked into it, does that make me Chickenman too? Do the inconvenient facts that the Township Manager of Upper Uwchlan is following his zoning and the law make him , Cary Vargos , Chickenman?
I don’t know who Chickenman is and as an Auslander I stand a better chance of finding out than Ken Miller, Dave Brown, Claire Quinn and so on and so forth. Maybe Chickenman is Sam Cantrell and he is all organic? Maybe Ted Otteni or Gabe Pilotti is Chickenman? What about West Vincent’s Township Manager and Township Solicitor? Are they in fact Chickenman?
I know David Monteith. He runs a good business. And because he stood up once upon a time in West Vincent he is harassed by supporters of “good government” as it currently stands in West Vincent. These people stand in the shadows like vampires afraid to be seen in daylight, don’t they? And doesn’t this stuff oddlyseem to happen to every other resident and taxpayer of West Vincent who stands up for the right things? I figure it is only a matter of time before John Jacobs and Maria Holderness will be targeted, right? Maybe their residency will be challenged? How they tie their shoes? Maybe a case can be used against civilized, incorruptible, honest people some more in West Vincent? Why does good = bad?
So are you going to attack me because I am sick of what you “good people” have been trying to do to an innocent man the past couple of years? I get you are all working on mob mentality and like to hide in the shadows as bullies are wont to do, but sooner or later, probably sooner, you will be caught won’t you? After all you never know where surveillance cameras lurk (other than in woods during private barbeques) do you?
The irony of this dumb as dirt thing posted today is the proposed farmers market for West Vincent is actually located in Upper Uwchlan . So maybe Cary Vargo REALLY is Chickenman? Hell maybe Jim Gerlach is Chickenman! Or what about that nasty Larry guy who left comments on this blog? Is he Chickenman?
Lots of media follow this blog and eventually someone will say it is very odd the way West Vincent officials turn a seemingly blind eye while residents are bullied by government supporters. And I bet that might include The Daily Local which some flannel mouth woman in West Vincent whose name begins with an “S” seems to think she controls, right? (I find that to be quite the accomplishment given she is neither editor, owner, nor publisher is she?)
If you people do not have the balls to come out of the shadows and man and woman up and have a conversation the right way maybe you should all just shut it?
But this bullying and harassing of private citizens who love where they live and want the best for residents IS going to stop. People get tired of it more and more every time. And the fact that May primary turned out the way it did and the fact that the placards in the United States Post Office are back says that someone or several someones are running scared and dare we say they are BIG CHICKENS? Are they Chickenman????
Cluck, cluck, cluck. This blog is my opinion as guaranteed by the founding fathers of this country via the First Amendment. Guess they are Chickenmen too?
And I thought the drama surrounding farmers markets in my part of Chester County was enough.
Now there is more farmers market drama. But what did I suspect? Or expect if it involves West Vincent Township? Shall we just call it Miller’s Market to go with the Miller Towers in Miller Township and be done with it? Why in addition do the names Ann Marie Butera Cantrell and Sam Cantrell of Maysie’s Farm keep cropping up? Are they the movers and the shakers who are behind the move to West Vincent from Anselma Mill? Is the Anselma Mill Market really moving from Anselma Mill to West Vincent or is the Anselma Market closing and another market opening in West Vincent? Are you able to track this because I am sure having a hard time….
It has been a veritable who’s on first scenario. What is it about West Vincent that they can even (apparently) screw up a farmers market? I love farmers markets and they are an awesome addition to communities but you have to do things properly.
And what is the craziest thing of all with this farmers market? How about that the land proposed to be used might actually be in Upper Uwchlan Township? So if so, has there been a meeting there?
Who is sponsoring this market? Is it a local municipality? Is it a non-profit farmers’ cooperative, and if so are they registered as a non-profit? Or is it a for profit business model, and if so who is it and will they be paying the right taxes and fees, etc? Who will be responsible to the citizens of West Vincent (or Upper Uwchlan) in cleaning up the market? It is a little hinky on parking, so where will people park?
And who the heck ANNOUNCES a market as in signs, Facebook pages and so on and so forth that has not formerly been approved? I mean what kind of amateur hour romper room antics is this? That just makes people resent something that should equal a pleasant experience, and of course that lends itself to asking again who exactly is doing this market? And if it is a producers market that means all farmers have to grow what they sell right?
Seems to me there are a lot of questions and that this is something yet again that West Vincent is doing in a slap dash backroom deal kind of way, doesn’t it? Is there actual permission in tangible form from Upper Uwhclan? And why was the legal notice SO LAST MINUTE? Does the legal notice mean there is not quite the proper zoning for such an enterprise and if so who announces a farmers market with signs and Facebook pages if they don’t have the zoning in place?
What a shame is what I say. Farmers Markets are awesome for local economies…but when you don’t do things the right way, can it be said everyone suffers?
Farmers Market drama is so unnecessary. Sigh…Bravo could add a new series to their reality TV roster: “The Real Farmers Markets of Chester County“….
Here is what Chickenman has to say:
West Vincent Township has been actively working to bring a Farmer’s Market to the township’s Andrew Evans Park. Local farmer Sam Cantrell came to a township meeting on March 11, 2013 to request the use of the Township property.
There was a question pertaining to the park property being eased against commercial activity and Clare Quinn stated that there is no easement. It was supposed to be eased as part of the DONATION to the Township, but it was never done. While Clare Quinn answered truthfully, the Township did indeed adopt a resolution AGAINST commercial activity on the property that stands today.
The township eventually elected against using most of the park, but there is just over 2 acres next to Rte 401 that the township purchased from Newt Evans and is allegedly not part of the resolution. The part of the park is actually located in UPPER UWCHLAN TOWNSHIP. There are some improvements that need to be made. In the last couple weeks, a pipe was installed in order to cross a drainage swale. Surveyors have been hustling around the location in the last week. I see signs have been popping up.
This operation has NOT YET BEEN APPROVED. Who is paying for these improvements? You are. Sustainability is a buzzword in West Vincent Township. Does Sustainability mean that the taxpayer need to underwrite the expenses of the local farmers?
Wait! It will be more than Farmers. It may be crafters, also. Here is the Farmer’s Market Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/WestVincentFarmersMarket this operation is required to be approved by the township of Upper Uwchlan and according to the video, a permit was issued (according to Ken Miller), against the zoning of Upper Uwchlan Township. Is Upper Uwchlan is starting to become like West Vincent by ignoring their laws? Did they really issue a permit? Here is the pertinent section of the West Vincent Township meeting about the Farmer’s Market:
I urge everyone to watch these videos. In Part 1, resident Frances Ellis points out that the use does not meet the criteria set forth in Upper Uwchlan zoning. In Part 2, Ken Miller is anxious to vote on this issue. The issue is discussed as if it has already been approved. Ken Miller becomes very upset when counsel advises against voting on the Farmer’s Market. It sure seems like this is a done deal, in the face of questioning that this clearly does not meet Upper Uwchlan Zoning.
What is the rush? Ken Miller needs a new outlet for his goods? This is his chance to move into a Farmer’s Market at no or little cost, at least to him. There will be plenty of cost to the township taxpayer as this moves forward. I am not against a Farmer’s Market, I think they are great. But it has to be a legal operation. Pearl’s Farm Market was shut down years ago because it’s location on Rte. 100 at Horseshoe Trail did not meet zoning.
Additionally, why does the government (the taxpayer) have to finance someone else’s business? Rent the property, cover the expenses for ALL the improvements and costs. I have not seen any township video discussing how the township expenses are going to be covered. Better yet, do it on private property, where the rental income can be taxed, which supports the government operations.
There is a special township meeting currently advertised for Monday night, June 3 at 8:00 pm, (see attached), to vote on the Farmer’s Market. If you want to find out what the meeting is about, or just wish to be aware of what’s happening, you should attend. But I bet I know how it will turn out.
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