the song remains the same

west vincent voicesAnd over in West Vincent, the song remains the same.

Children, we are grading on a new scale today: “O” for Obvious.

‘West Vincent Voices”?  Really ? So obvious in its intent and deliberately close to West Vincent Infos A/K/A Chickenman? (I am sure I will get hate mail on how this is all altruistic and genuine, but define genuine and beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right?)

Anyway, I got this mailing of a new West Vincent newsletter and had to giggle.  My first thought was I hope they have better virus software when they do this given the issues with the actual township-sponsored website. (And wow remember the explanation on why this occurred? Talk about tall tales, right?)

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Not  that this new newsletter isn’t township sponsored, after a fashion. It definitely is.  It is what my jaded political sensibilities would call a cheerleader effort.

This all might be new fangled in West Vincent but they have been doing this for years on the Main Line. And as one of the Supervisors David Brown not only hails from the Main Line but was once aligned with certain factions and is a big part of this missive via e-mail list, well, yes, somewhat predictable.  You see they used to do that all of the time in Lower Merion and these websites and “informative newsletters” still pop up whenever an election season is on the horizon or they felt threatened over issues.

Here is what Dave Brown had to say on this open, unbiased, and ever-truthful latest installment of “As The West Vincent Turns”:

There has been another anonymous attack on a West Vincent citizen. This one was aimed at me; I’m accused of trying to throttle public participation in meetings.

Here’s the truth:

In Ken Miller’s temporary absence, I opened the January 27 Board of Supervisors meeting as Vice Chairman. I asked Tammy Swavely, our Township Secretary, to make careful note of questions asked during the “Public Comment on Non-Agenda Items” part of the meeting, so that, instead of answering them off the cuff, we could get and present full, careful answers at the next meeting.

Questions during the Non-Agenda Comment period are often out of left field, and neither supervisors nor staff may be prepared to answer them knowledgeably.  I think someone who asks a question deserves an accurate answer, instead of one given on the fly.

It’s different with questions about an agenda item: we’ll be acting on that item, and will have done our homework on the facts and issues, and can be expected to give informed answers.

The attack makes it look as if two of the supervisors conspired against the third. The three supervisors have a friendly, cooperative relationship, and as far as I know no two of us would betray the trust of the third.

And isn’t it interesting that this sort of gratuitous attack should be flung at township government when it was?

The very night before, there was a terrific public outpouring of support and appreciation for the performance of township staff and government during the ice storm.  That’s news.   And that’s also reality in West Vincent.

David Brown

Dave, I am not anonymous and even I said you were trying to thwart public participation, because you were. Tell the truth and shame the devil as my Pennsylvania German Grandmother used to say.  And I won’t even touch the ice storm comment.  Because while staff like the police and fire department-type personnel were fabulous all over Facebook the complaints about the beloved Roadmaster and his snowplowing abilities were rampant.

You learned this very tactic in Lower Merion Township.  This is what those commissioners do: they can blather on ad infinitum as long as they speak, but the public is put on a three-minute egg timer (five minutes if you are a group).  At the start of any public participation they tell you they will listen to what you have to say but won’t respond to you.  As a matter of fact, they as commissioners can decide to pull apart what a member of the public is saying but the public in question cannot comment back, or offer rebuttal.  Interactive dialogue is a four letter word. And trying to end run another supervisor to try to render them useless is one of the oldest political tactics in the book of political tricks.

Most of these people in West Vincent have no idea of what your old political ties were like all your years in Lower Merion, nor the political company that you kept.  And that is indeed a shame.  Because if they knew, they would have your play book, wouldn’t they? I remember the look on your face at that very nice cocktail party in the New Year. At first you were so thrilled that someone knew all you had done in Lower Merion.  Then I told you who I was and wow, Dave, you aren’t always such a good poker player.  Your face gave you away as you scurried away as fast as humanly possible.  You still don’t get that I would never have been rude to you in a social situation as someone else’s guest or anything remotely close.  As opposed to you, I wanted to make sure the playing field was level and you knew to whom you were speaking (as in a fan of actual good government and Chickenman.)

This newsletter is just the latest attempt to divert the public from Chickenman and a continued effort to try to undercut actual reforms.  It is the 2014 version of that Good Government for West Vincent and who did that again? Dave Brown and that Kit Troiler person? And isn’t it funny that this pops up but that old website favorite Government for West Vincent Township  and David Brown’s old campaign or whatever website appears to have been taken down?

My guess is they will have a website at some point because they have “parked” some web addresses:

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Here is who is doing this  special newsletter.  I do not object to informative newsletters.  It’s just this is so politically obvious it is almost painful. Listen to what they have to say:

There’s so much good   in the worst of us and so much bad in the best of us that it doesn’t become   the best of us to be talking about the rest of us (Irish axiom)

WELCOME!

West Vincent Voices is brought to you by a volunteer group of   West Vincent residents who hope to inform and entertain readers with a    balance of news, opinion, and features about our community. If you enjoy our   first issue, we hope you will share it with your friends by using the Forward   button in the top right corner.

We would love to   receive your feedback, pro or con, and welcome your news and story ideas for   future issues. Let us know about your neighbor with a special talent or a   local business you’d like us to feature. We are also   interested in short literary works, art, photographs, and humor.

Contributions from   our readers should follow these guidelines: News articles and opinion pieces   must be signed with the contributor’s name or names and contact information   provided for fact-checking purposes. Original humor, art, photos, and   literature may be submitted anonymously or under a pseudonym. Personal   attacks, rumors, innuendo, etc., will not be accepted for publication. We   reserve the right to decide whether and when a submission will be published.

If you would prefer   not to receive West Vincent Voices, use the Unsubscribe tab at the top   or bottom of the page.

We look forward to   hearing from you!

Lee Calhoon, John Rieder, Sara Shick, Larry Stone westvincentvoices@gmail.com

Change is hard for people and change is obviously not an easy thing in West Vincent.  But the truth is if you live in West Vincent you need to cut the old political regime out for the cancer it is.  Yes West Vincent is a lovely place.  But it won’t stay that way as long as 2/3 of the Board of Supervisors is who they are.  You could stand to get a new Township Manager too.

It’s a shame that for every two steps forward in West Vincent you get these other steps backwards.

It’s also a shame that certain factions in West Vincent don’t get it. They don’t get that people don’t want to live in fear of government and elected officials (or their supporters) where they live. They don’t get that at the end of the day, people don’t want to go to meetings, they don’t want to have to speak up but if a system is broken and they are paying for it, what other recourse do they have? These people fear Chickenman for one simple reason: he tells the truth.

However, if you want to check out this newest latest and greatest version of Good Government for West Vincent the spin version, e-mail westvincentvoices@gmail.com

I really wish I could just say this newsletter was fabulous, but I can’t. It is just more  political chicanery and I find that so disappointing.

a good day in west vincent (finally)

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We can call him Supervisor-Elect Jacobs.

Congratulations John Jacobs! (And see you didn’t need Christmas tinsel on your signs either!)

Apparently the entire endorsed slate in West Vincent has WON as per my early reports !

Endorsed West Vincent Candidates were:

Michael Schneider, Tax Collector
Louise Rutter, Judge of Elections (Dist #1)
John Jacobs, Supervisor
Maria Holderness, Auditor
Suzanne Nastase, Inspector of Elections
Tonya Helwig, Judge of Elections (Dist #2)

I am guessing that Harriet person is blaming it all on chickens…

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a good day in west vincent (finally)

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We can call him Supervisor-Elect Jacobs.

Congratulations John Jacobs! (And see you didn’t need Christmas tinsel on your signs either!)

Apparently the entire endorsed slate in West Vincent has WON as per my early reports !

Endorsed West Vincent Candidates were:

Michael Schneider, Tax Collector
Louise Rutter, Judge of Elections (Dist #1)
John Jacobs, Supervisor
Maria Holderness, Auditor
Suzanne Nastase, Inspector of Elections
Tonya Helwig, Judge of Elections (Dist #2)

I am guessing that Harriet person is blaming it all on chickens…

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no one here but us chickens

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I asked these fine feathered fowl if they had seen Chickenman, but *sigh* all they did was cluck….truth be told with all that clucking they sounded just like West Vincent Township Supervisors and officials…very amusing!  Enjoy the day!

 

playing “chicken” in west vincent

cluckThere has been a lot of discussion about “things” in West Vincent again, and once again the knee jerk reaction of someone is to post things which are tantamount to bullying at a minimum in a building that functions as a United States Post Office.

Posting harassing things to bully private citizens in a building designated a United States Post Office is like mailing the same things through the mail – it is not quite legal and that is why things like this are given to United States Postal inspectors, isn’t it?  Maybe it is past time to bump this up a notch?

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So supporters, followers, politicians, township employees, whomever here is the 411: David Monteith is not and never has been “Chickenman”.  And Chickenman is not the one who started the inquiry into the problematic West Vincent Farmers Market.  Ordinary people did.  I have looked into it, does that make me Chickenman too?  Do the inconvenient facts that the Township Manager of Upper Uwchlan is following his zoning and the law make him , Cary Vargos , Chickenman?

I don’t know who Chickenman is and as an Auslander I stand a better chance of finding out than Ken Miller, Dave Brown, Claire Quinn and so on and so forth. Maybe Chickenman is Sam Cantrell and he is all organic? Maybe Ted Otteni or Gabe Pilotti is Chickenman?  What about West Vincent’s Township Manager and Township Solicitor? Are they in fact Chickenman?

I know David Monteith.  He runs a good business.  And because he stood up once upon a time in West Vincent he is harassed by supporters of “good government” as it currently stands in West Vincent.   These people stand in the shadows like vampires  afraid to be seen in daylight, don’t they?  And doesn’t this stuff oddly seem to happen to every other resident and taxpayer of West Vincent who stands up for the right things?  I figure it is only a matter of time before  John Jacobs and Maria Holderness will be targeted, right?  Maybe their residency will be challenged? How they tie their shoes? Maybe a case can be used against civilized, incorruptible, honest people some more in West Vincent?  Why does good = bad?

So are you going to attack me because I am sick of what you “good people” have been trying to do to an innocent man the past couple of years?  I get you are all working on mob mentality and like to hide in the shadows as bullies are wont to do, but sooner or later, probably sooner, you will be caught won’t you?  After all you never know where surveillance cameras lurk (other than in woods during private barbeques) do you?

The irony of this dumb as dirt thing posted today is the proposed farmers market for West Vincent is actually located in Upper Uwchlan .  So maybe Cary Vargo REALLY is Chickenman?  Hell maybe Jim Gerlach is Chickenman! Or what about that nasty Larry guy who left comments on this blog?  Is he Chickenman?

Lots of media follow this blog and eventually someone will say it is very odd the way West Vincent officials turn a seemingly blind eye while residents are bullied by government supporters.  And I bet that might include The Daily Local which some flannel mouth woman in West Vincent whose name begins with an “S” seems to think she controls, right? (I find that to be quite the accomplishment given she is neither editor, owner, nor publisher is she?)

If you people do not have the balls to come out of the shadows and man and woman up and have a conversation the right way maybe you should all just shut it?

But this bullying and harassing of private citizens who love where they live and want the best for residents IS going to stop. People get tired of it more and more every time. And the fact that May primary turned out the way it did and the fact that the placards in the United States Post Office are back says that someone or several someones are running scared and dare we say they are BIG CHICKENS?  Are they Chickenman????

Cluck, cluck, cluck.  This blog is my opinion as guaranteed by the founding fathers of this country via the First Amendment.  Guess they are Chickenmen too?

farmers markets = drama? in west vincent no less?

DSC_0210And I thought the drama surrounding farmers markets in my part of Chester County was enough.

Apparently not…..

Now there is more farmers market drama.  But what did I suspect? Or expect if it involves West Vincent Township? Shall we just call it Miller’s Market to go with the Miller Towers in Miller Township and be done with it?  Why in addition do the names Ann Marie Butera Cantrell and Sam Cantrell of Maysie’s Farm keep cropping up?  Are they the movers and the shakers who are behind the move to West Vincent from Anselma Mill? Is the Anselma Mill Market really moving from Anselma Mill to West Vincent or is the Anselma Market closing and another market opening in West Vincent? Are you able to track this because I am sure having a hard time….

So the drama with this market started when fans of the Anselma Mill’s Farmers’ and Artisans’ Market page on Facebook started seeing posts about that market closing and becoming the West Vincent Farmers Market.

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It has been a veritable who’s on first scenario.  What is it about West Vincent that they can even (apparently) screw up a farmers market?  I love farmers markets and they are an awesome addition to communities but you have to do things properly.

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And what is the craziest thing of all with this farmers market?  How about that the land proposed to be used might actually be in Upper Uwchlan Township?  So if so, has there been a meeting there?

Who is sponsoring this market?  Is it a local municipality?  Is it a non-profit farmers’ cooperative, and if so are they registered as a non-profit? Or is it a for profit business model, and if so who is it and will they be paying the right taxes and fees, etc?  Who will be responsible to the citizens of West Vincent (or Upper Uwchlan) in cleaning up the market? It is a little hinky on parking, so where will people park?

And who the heck ANNOUNCES a market as in signs, Facebook pages and so on and so forth that has not formerly been approved?  I mean what kind of amateur hour romper room antics is this? That just makes people resent something that should equal a pleasant experience, and of course that lends itself to asking again who exactly is doing this market?  And if it is a producers market that means all farmers have to grow what they sell right?

Seems to me there are a lot of questions and that this is something yet again that West Vincent is doing in a slap dash backroom deal kind of way, doesn’t it?  Is there actual permission in tangible form from Upper Uwhclan? And why was the legal notice SO LAST MINUTE?   Does the legal notice mean there is not quite the proper zoning for such an enterprise and if so who announces a farmers market with signs and Facebook pages if they don’t have the zoning in place?

What a shame is what I say.  Farmers Markets are awesome for local economies…but when you don’t do things the right way, can it be said everyone suffers?

Farmers Market drama is so unnecessary.  Sigh…Bravo could add a new series to their reality TV roster: “The Real Farmers Markets of Chester County“….

Here is what Chickenman has to say:

Hi

West Vincent Township has been actively working to bring a Farmer’s Market to the township’s Andrew Evans Park.  Local farmer Sam Cantrell came to a township meeting on March 11, 2013 to request the use of the Township property.

 

http://www.westvincenttwp.org/images/Minutes/BOS%20Minutes%20031113.pdf 

 

This was done under new business, not public comment on non-agenda items but not published on the agenda:

 

http://www.westvincenttwp.org/images/docs/031113%20Agenda.pdf 

 

 

It was further discussed under Public Comment on April 8, 2013:

 

http://www.westvincenttwp.org/images/Minutes/BOS%20Minutes%2004-08-13.pdf

There was a question pertaining to the park property being eased against commercial activity and Clare Quinn stated that there is no easement. It was supposed to be eased as part of the DONATION to the Township, but it was never done. While Clare Quinn answered truthfully, the Township did indeed adopt a resolution AGAINST commercial activity on the property that stands today.

The township eventually elected against using most of the park, but there is just over 2 acres next to Rte 401 that the township purchased from Newt Evans and is allegedly not part of the resolution. The part of the park is actually located in UPPER UWCHLAN TOWNSHIP. There are some improvements that need to be made. In the last couple weeks, a pipe was installed in order to cross a drainage swale. Surveyors have been hustling around the location in the last week. I see signs have been popping up.

 

 

This operation has NOT YET BEEN APPROVED. Who is paying for these improvements? You are. Sustainability is a buzzword in West Vincent Township. Does Sustainability mean that the taxpayer need to underwrite the expenses of the local farmers?

 

Wait! It will be more than Farmers. It may be crafters, also. Here is the Farmer’s Market Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/WestVincentFarmersMarket  this operation is required to be approved by the township of Upper Uwchlan and according to the video, a permit was issued (according to Ken Miller), against the zoning of Upper Uwchlan Township. Is Upper Uwchlan is starting to become like West Vincent by ignoring their laws? Did they really issue a permit? Here is the pertinent section of the West Vincent Township meeting about the Farmer’s Market:

Pt 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRByEhLGzVU&feature=youtu.be

Pt 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD5nx8BAWZM&feature=youtu.be

I urge everyone to watch these videos.  In Part 1, resident Frances Ellis points out that the use does not meet the criteria set forth in Upper Uwchlan zoning. In Part 2, Ken Miller is anxious to vote on this issue. The issue is discussed as if it has already been approved. Ken Miller becomes very upset when counsel advises against voting on the Farmer’s Market. It sure seems like this is a done deal, in the face of questioning that this clearly does not meet Upper Uwchlan Zoning.

What is the rush? Ken Miller needs a new outlet for his goods? This is his chance to move into a Farmer’s Market at no or little cost, at least to him. There will be plenty of cost to the township taxpayer as this moves forward. I am not against a Farmer’s Market, I think they are great. But it has to be a legal operation. Pearl’s Farm Market was shut down years ago because it’s location on Rte. 100 at Horseshoe Trail did not meet zoning.

 

Additionally,  why does the government (the taxpayer) have to finance someone else’s business? Rent the property, cover the expenses for ALL the improvements and costs. I have not seen any township video discussing how the township expenses are going to be covered. Better yet, do it on private property, where the rental income can be taxed, which supports the government operations.

There is a special township meeting currently advertised for Monday night, June 3 at 8:00 pm, (see attached), to vote on the Farmer’s Market. If you want to find out what the meeting is about, or just wish to be aware of what’s happening, you should attend.  But I bet I know how it will turn out.
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Forward my newsletter on to your friends and neighbors.

Best wishes

Chickenman

 

argus & fiona’s laws? can we do that?

DSC_0105I woke up thinking of the laws that need to change, and in my mind a bunch of things need to happen:

  1. Punishment AND fines for animal cruelty need to be tougher all the way around.  It needs to mean more than an inconvenience
  2. Pennsylvania as in the Commonwealth needs to recognize companion animals like dogs as more than property- people discussed that a few years ago when trying for stiffer puppy mill laws but I do not recall anything than some stuff getting watered down. I bet Tom Hickey from the state is watching this blog, and I would like him to connect with me.
  3. Also farm statutes must be updated so there is less “fuzzy” area. My thought is two-fold: protect the dog owners better, but still give farmers recourse. I have not fleshed that thought out anymore than that but in PA we need to remember the importance of farms as they do drive enough of state economy still.
  4. I believe that municipalities like West Vincent that used to be extremely rural need to be made to look at their zoning more closely.  After all, when you get down to it development doesn’t happen without them does it? So it is incumbent upon them to work harder for better relationships between old and new.  Also what defines a farmer versus a hobbyist with tax breaks?
  5. Gun and gaming laws. I do not want this tragedy to be overshadowed and used by a national political debate. My frame of reference is simple: school people on existing laws because one of the things so irresponsible about what happened is the fact a shotgun was discharged like that in what I am told is R2 residential as opposed to land area zoned agricultural and am I wrong in that?

argus and fionaState Senator Andy Dinniman who represents a lot of us and is a huge animal advocate is working on some law having to do with dog owners being able to sue for damages.  He says and I quote ” I am drafting a law that would allow pet owners to civilly sue those who harm or kill their pets.”  I do not know the specifics other than that but would ask that if some of his staff is watching this blog if they could  post specifics as they occur.

I urge you to contact your lawmakers on a state and federal level and ask for change that will protect our dogs better. They are a part of our families not like an ear of corn.

In Chester County to connect with Andy Dinniman:

One North Church Street
West Chester, PA 19380
Phone: 610.692.2112
Fax: 610.436.1721
Monday-Friday: 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m

Andy@pasenate.com

In Chester County to bump it up to a Federal level to Congress:

Chester County
Jim Gerlach
 111 East Uwchlan Avenue
 Exton, PA 19341
610.594.1415 tel
610.594.1419 fax

Pat Meehan
 940 West Sproul Road
Springfield, PA 19064
Phone: (610) 690-7323
Fax: (610) 690-7329

Together if we focus together and ask for Justice for Argus & Fiona, maybe we can propel that forward to someday mean Argus & Fiona’s Laws.

I will also comment briefly that in spite of media spin the Facebook page Justice for Argus & Fiona , it was set up with a peaceable goal of true justice.  As in through the legal system, including changing laws to better protect dogs.

After all, one of the people who helped set up the Facebook page was Mary Bock, who is a truly lovely and gentle woman who has shown such grace and peace in the face of unbelievable family tragedy.   Make no misunderstanding with regard to that page as it is not for deviant purposes and  implication is resented. People are banned and comments are removed. Posting and commenting is a privilege, not a right.

However, the unfortunate reality is that in this world two of the most heated topics in the world are issues having to do with children and pets, and this issue involves BOTH.

Below are some media snippets from yesterday afternoon as the region learned the dogs would start to have justice, and did not die in vain.  I will comment that I am struggling with the statement Mr. Pilotti is purported to have released about remorse and prayers for the family.  Part of me hopes it is true, yet part of me wonders why he simply did not do that before the media and public got news of what happened?  Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t he have almost a week in between the actual date of tragedy and media whirlwind to pray and show remorse?

In any event, those of us supporting the Bock family do not support violence.  Nor do we support nut jobs that stand outside anyone’s home screaming anything. No matter WHAT has transpired, we as a society cannot swirl downwards into utter lawlessness.  More bad acts will not solve any issue.

So I ask all of you to use your energy to speak out for dogs.  Get laws changed.  And oh yes, no matter what West Vincent says if you live there you have a right to be heard at the Supervisors meeting.  They may decline comment, but you have the right to public privilege of the floor or public comment.  They do not have to respond, but as elected and appointed officials part of their job is to listen. Just be polite.

I am told that this coming Monday is a normal Supervisors meeting. Monday at 7:30 PM at their Township building 729 St. Matthews Road, Chester Springs, PA 19425

Media has reported that West Vincent has not really been chatting with anyone.  I guess “unavailable” and “declining comment” would describe it best? In any event, they provide their township contact information on their website as:

729 St. Matthews Road Chester Springs, PA 19425

Phone: (610) 458-1601 Fax: (610) 458-1603

E-Mail  office@westvincenttwp.org




As always, thanks for stopping by. And to that eternally curious woman who keeps asking a mutual friend about this blog to the point of obsession? Lady, if you have to ask you don’t need to know. Grow up and quit looking for chickenman conspiracies behind every bush and hillock in West Vincent.  (No I do not know who chickenman is, nor do I care.  Even chickens have First Amendment Rights…)

Face it, you live in warped Mayberry and the sooner you own that the more at ease your  mind will be. I know it is hard for some to fathom that I post recipes and discuss politics and local issues, but so be it.  Far more interesting than standing in someone’s kitchen telling birthing stories and discussing which mustard goes best with a honey baked ham, yes?

TTFN