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is a great valley democrat east whiteland’s shadow cabinet?

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Screenshot from the very public and apparently not very updated. Chesco Democrats website.

Soooo. This is just a funny little post about wondering if Jerry Pyne is East Whiteland‘s shadow cabinet? I am just asking a question. I am not asserting that by design or anything else. It’s just he seems to insert himself often doesn’t he?

So he has an interesting history. He is now the past vice chair of the Chester County Democratic Committee. it’s actually embarrassing for them that he still shows up when you do a Google search as being Vice Chair because the current Vice Chair is Michelle Smith. and truly that is progress. I don’t always agree with her, but I know she does her best and does her homework and has honor. That is also not saying I have anything to do with this because really my opinion doesn’t matter to them. It’s just an opinion.

Anywhoo, Jerry reared his head and sometimes ruddy complexion when East Whiteland residents were gathering signatures to get the question on the ballot of should East Whiteland Township go to five supervisors.

See there’s Gerry directing opinion traffic or trying to.

Jerry likes to mansplain from what I’m told, but he was practically rabid about this not making the fall ballot wasn’t he? And I am sure he is working feverishly to make sure people don’t vote for this yes?

I never actually realized until this morning that he lives in East Whiteland. I thought he lived over the border in Charlestown for some reason but I guess that’s where the other crazy Jerry lives who is the Republican? It’s easy to get them mixed up because they are a type and there’s one from each party in such close proximity to one another right?

Jerry is a committee person for the Great Valley Democrats. His patch is Peoples Light and he is in the first precinct.

This morning, I was chatting with a friend who is a prodigious reader of meeting minutes of multiple municipalities. Truly a research marvel. So she says to me, do you know who your vacancy board person is in your township? And I said no, why?

Then I got the following screenshot:

Oh, and here’s the link in case anyone thinks I’m making it up:

East Whiteland 2026 Reorg.

And there he is Mr. Vacancy Board 2026! I wonder if he has a pretty sash like a prom queen or beauty pageant winner?

Anyway, what does that mean for the rest of us mere mortals ? Simple. If someone resigns or is removed from office or takes a leave of absence or is incapacitated in any manner he’s the guy that gets called up for tied votes. He’s a vote tie breaker.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/US/HTM/1933/0/0069..htm

Legally, however, he cannot vote himself to be a more permanent supervisor of the board in a situation. The purpose of this position is in part to decide upon a replacement Supervisor should a Supervisor position become vacant. It’s kind of important and people often overlook this spot in township government, myself included. honestly I had forgotten about the position.

It is mostly succinctly put an often overlooked but influential and important position.

https://www.palegis.us/statutes/unconsolidated/law-information/view-statute?txtType=PDF&SessYr=2017&ActNum=0016.&SessInd=0

And what would happen if he somehow came in via the vacancy board while this data center is still being decided?

Another valid question yes?

So he doesn’t want five supervisors as he loses his power right? He doesn’t want five supervisors because he loves data centers doesn’t he? I mean, shall we recall that email that recently surfaced in a voluminous right to know?

Allow me:

That is from 2023 and he was pushing data centers because his excuse? Didn’t want to appear business unfriendly correct?

Now the backup generation they were talking about at the time if I’m not mistaken, was the failed attempt at getting a hydrogen hub immediately over the township borders into West Whiteland with samey same developer yes?

How to Shut Down a Dirty Blue Hydrogen Project

Ahhh yes.

So I have a hypothesis and I’m going to ask another question. Does Jerry Pyne want to be a supervisor eventually in East Whiteland? This is easy way to get noticed via the back door if you are like the vacancy board person or appointed by the vacancy board because someone steps down or leaves or whatever?

That snake is not too subtle in this patch of grass IMHO so people need to keep an eye on him and this is yet another reason why we need to vote for five supervisors on the fall ballot.

Duplicitous is as duplicitous does?

Time will tell but right now I just have questions do any of you?

Life is very interesting right now.

Life is also not a conspiracy theory until suddenly it feels like one. Seeing that guy’s name next to vacancy board doesn’t help though does it?

and the (political) bullies roll into east whiteland township…oh wait they live here in some cases, don’t they?

as the data center turns in east whiteland

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Oh East Whiteland Township climb up out of the twisted rabbit hole you seem trapped in by choice would you please? I mean does anyone want another Bishop Tube situation? You know that site that is never cleaned up yet the plan(s) keep getting the kick the can down the road treatment for how many years now?

So the other day I popped up a telling email from East Whiteland:

new data center math in east whiteland?

So then I saw this from East Whiteland which must have come out around the same time?

So let’s ponder this.

Let’s chat cap ok?

Isn’t the entire point of a cap to keep the contaminated soil in place? Grading up the land to make it equal to the cap completely ruins the point and the groundwater and storm water run off is going to infiltrate the cap isn’t it?

And maybe they aren’t digging on the cap but isn’t any kind of soil disturbance no bueno? You know like the tire tracks and where they are seen?

And then there is this letter:

I guess I just don’t understand what East Whiteland doesn’t understand, do you? Hope those politicians are enjoying their Waterloo right?

The next meeting is Wednesday, September 9 at 6:30PM at the East Whiteland Township Building (209 Conestoga Road, Frazer PA.) They did not get a bigger space, so pack the room and Zoom.

They will undoubtedly tell everyone that they should not express how they feel if it’s the same as the person before or after. That’s wrong. You have a legal right to express yourself politely.

They will say non residents can’t talk. Also not legally true is it?

They will also probably once again subvert the public record and violate sunshine by cutting out room reactions, comments from the audience, and public deliberations and they can’t do that either can they? (I have now emailed twice about this issue and have received no response.)

Also pay close attention to the public meeting minutes. They are cherry picking reporting who is commenting. Look at July 8 minutes for example- it is like State Senator Katie Muth was never there among others isn’t it?

And has East Whiteland or the data center developer ever said where soil, and fluids, and debris goes specifically? Foote Mineral is still an EPA site after all isn’t it?

IMHO East Whiteland is delaminating and residents are the losers aren’t they?

#packtheroom

new data center math in east whiteland?

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Still contaminated right? Soooo
excavating 5,000,000 cubic feet total? Does this mean they’re building up 10ft to get to the 20ft basement? Is that new math for data centers?

Next question where did they put the soil in the debris they removed from this site?

Sooo many questions.

got warehouse potential… in tredyffrin?

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Soooo. There is always something going on in Tredyffrn or somethings going on and they love to fly below the radar. And oh now if you want paperwork etc on some proposed plan on the website apparently you have to file a right to know? Some cockamamie thing about bots an malicious actors? Very Law & Order of them oui?

**Due to recent incidents of scam emails targeting Planning Commission applicants, the Township will no longer provide direct links to application materials, plans and review documents on the agenda posted to our website. All requests for application materials, plans and review documents must be submitted through a Right-to-Know request. This change is intended to protect applicant information and prevent unauthorized access by automated bots or malicious actors.

See that screenshot immediately above this typed line? Message received less than an hour ago.

Hmmm…

So I went searching:

https://www.tredyffrin.org/files/assets/township/v/2/document-central/meeting-agendas/zoning-hearing-board-agendas/2026-zhb-agendas/08272026-zhb-agenda-revised.pdf

Special exception. I thought this site was for an office building originally?

See: https://www.675masstimber.com/

I found that via the Equus website and I have to ask what are the Halloween costumes like for this company? (Equus was a 1973 play by Peter Shaffer, about a child psychiatrist who attempts to treat a young man who has a pathological religious fascination with horses. Equus is also a Latin word for “horse”.)

https://www.tredyffrin.org/files/assets/township/v/1/document-central/meeting-agendas/planning-commission-agendas/2026-pc-agendas/08202026-planning-commission-agenda.pdf

https://www.tredyffrin.org/files/assets/township/v/1/document-central/meeting-agendas/zoning-hearing-board-agendas/2026-zhb-agendas/02262026-zhb-agenda.pdf

So this developer or commercial real estate concern is a pretty big outfit and they have stuff all over. They seem pretty quiet and they just do their thing. They have owned this 10+ acre property since 2019.

At first it seemed this would be office space. But now, they want to be warehouse space? But they need a special exception? And it is kind of next door to an overpriced townshomey kind of place called “Wayne Glen”?

Savvy Main Line in 2018 briefly mentioned 675 Swedesford when talking about ‘Wayne Glen” beginning construction:

Another Wayne Glen neighbor is still on the drawing board. If township approvals come through, Equus Capital Partners will build a rather unique five-story office building on Swedesford Road next year. Constructed from mass timber, it would be built entirely on spec (no signed tenants).

But now warehouses? Does anyone really think a new development with high-ish price stickers will want to be next door to a warehouse? I found a current real estate resale listing for a place in this development. Listed a handful of days ago at $895,00.

https://www.homes.com/property/164-rehoboth-rd-wayne-pa/szfs4kvynevfn

Warehouses are the new townhouse or condo or apartment building IMHO. What will this warehouse be used for? Could it be a gateway to a data center? Those are questions that have to be asked. It’s not bein paranoid, look no further than Limerick. The demolished Hood Mansion a historic asset that was on the Underground Railroad for a warehouse and now it’s a data center plan site is it not?

Shocker Tredyffrin, once again your slip is showing. Maybe you all wish to talk about this? Especially with that development next door?

I have no horse in this race, so Tredyffrin residents if interested will have to go ask questions at meetings, but warehouses? How many of those does any are need next to residential?

It’s a fair question.

so busy in east whiteland today!

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the everything but the kitchen sink post about the east whiteland data center.

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I begin with a stop work order issued today at 4 PM against Sentinel Green Fig re: Data Center in East Whiteland. (Screenshot above.)

Next is a little ditty “explaining” a few things including East Whiteland saying on the record they did not sign NDAs with these data center people. I am glad to hear this.

Next will be some fun right to know dumps. From the EPA and more. Here below is a screen shot of a plan sent to EPA. Which one is this? And still I ask, Foote Mineral, really? Toxic AF much?

And then this one below and next, also EPA I think and how what an amended plan? Not an approved one?

Then I got this email from today:

In case you can’t read, here is the verbiage verbatim:

Subject: Data Center Project | Request for Immediate Review of Permits

Dear East Whiteland Board of Supervisors, 

I’m writing to follow up on the comments I made at the Board of Supervisors meeting on Wednesday, August 19 regarding the permits issued for the proposed data center project.

I am requesting an immediate review of Permit #B-2026-221 and any related permits issued for the 2024 approved Land Development Plan (the “2024 Plan”).

It is my understanding that this Permit should not have been issued without a commitment letter from Aqua specific to the 2024 Plan. It is also my understanding that the Township has not received that commitment letter. If Aqua has provided the required commitment letter, please share a copy with me. If the Township has not received it, I am requesting that the Township take immediate action to suspend or revoke the Permit until all requirements for its issuance have been satisfied.

I am also attaching documents received from the EPA through a Right-to-Know request that raise an additional concern. The documents appear to show that the developer/applicant submitted information in November 2025 (prior to filing an amendment with East Whiteland Township) reflecting the amended project design they are currently seeking approval for, rather than the 2024 Plan previously approved by the Township. Specifically, the submission references shallow foundations, rather than the basements included in the 2024 Plan.

This raises a fundamental question: What plan is the developer currently constructing and obtaining permits to build?

Until the Township can confirm that the work being permitted and performed on the property is fully consistent with the currently approved 2024 Plan, I am requesting that the Township suspend the issuance and effectiveness of all permits issued for work not associated with the 2024 Plan and halt work authorized by those permits.

At a minimum, I am requesting written confirmation of:
1. Whether the Township has received the required Aqua commitment letter for the approved 2024 Plan and, if so, a copy of that letter.
2. Whether Permit #B-2026-221 and all related permits were properly issued based on the requirements of East Whiteland ordinance in effect at the time of issuance and consistent with the approved 2024 Plan.
3. Which approved land development plan and plan revision supports the issuance of each currently issued permit.
4. Whether the construction and foundation design reflected in the EPA submission are consistent with the 2024 Plan.
5. What action the Township will take if permits were issued based upon an unapproved plan or design or without required documentation.

Given the questions surrounding the approved 2024 Plan and the permits currently allowing work to proceed, I believe this warrants immediate attention. Please confirm receipt of this email within 24 hours and provide an update regarding the Township’s review and intended action.

Thank you,

Jessica Larkin

Wowza! The residents of East Whiteland are ON FIRE!

Before I post a slew of documents allow me a couple of gems I saw one of on a right to know and now another one today (and both are on township website as of this afternoon.) Not sure of the who was on first prior because Ginny Keslake has done some calling out on her Facebook page:

2026 permit update dcEAST WHITELAND august 26 updateDownload
Green Fig Permit Update August 3, 2026 EAST WHITELANDDownload

Ginny links:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18mKAXjxpo

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/14tM7iGhtB9

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BdaMuHVWW/
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BxjMG1sax/

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BgU8XcXii

You know I love a good drone video, here’s a recent fly by of the East Whiteland Data Center Site at Foote Mineral:

So then this showed up in someone’s right to know:

Then these little redacted gems:

Next I will load in all of the various things from people’s FOIA requests to the EPA that I have seen. They are not my work product. These are the residents who are amazeballs. I am only publishing what they received which is public. I would like to know where is the contaminated soil going? 2 stories approved plan drawing states 3 stories (includes basement)?? The approved plan requires them to excavate and move 5,000,000 cubic feet of contaminated soil- their number???Actually there are so many questions, all of or heads are spinning as to why in the Sam Hell is this still a project?

The residents of East Whiteland are on fire. They are amazing. I am in awe.

ED_021284A_00000011_Formal_RWR.pdf july 2023 montrosDownload
ED_021284A_00000026_Formal_RWR sept 23 montroseDownload
ED_021284A_00000037_Formal_RWR.pdf JF Oct 23 montroseDownload
ED_021284A_00000049_Formal_RWR.pdf feb 24 montrose JFDownload
ED_021284A_00000202_Formal_RWR Jf EPA intake LYdDownload
ED_021284A_00000203_Formal_RIF EPA JF LYd2Download
ED_021284A_00000201_Formal_RIF JF 24 EPA emailDownload
ED_021284A_00000205_FORMAL_RWR JF emails 25Download
ED_021284A_00000205_FORMAL_RWR october 2025Download
ED_021284A_00000206_FORMAL_RIF epa intakeDownload
ED_021284A_00000206_FORMAL_RIF nov 25 JF EPA intakeDownload
ED_021284A_00000207_FORMAL_RIF epa intake 2Download
ED_021284A_00000207_FORMAL_RIF sentinel comfort nov 25 JfDownload
ED_021284A_00000208_FORMAL_RWR plan shared with epaDownload
ED_021284A_00000208_FORMAL_RWR.pdf Jf plan to epaDownload
Letter – Final Response 2026-6723 bob epa (1) redactedDownload
Letter – Interim Resp. 3 2026-4461 ferris epa (1) rEDACTEDDownload

has east whiteland been rendered mute?

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After the July 8, 2026 meeting, I reached out to East Whiteland Township because part of the audio at different points in the meeting once again disappeared.

Yesterday I reached out to them again, prompted by a snippet of a meeting that Ginny Kerslake had shared:

Ginny had said (and I quote):

I just noticed that the video East Whiteland Township posted of the July 8, 2026 board of supervisors meeting has almost a full minute, muted during which they were deliberating about the vote on the requested changes to the approved plan.

And yes, a lot of of us noticed that who were watching as a zoom participant. I thought maybe at the time it was just a problem with the live stream so then I went and listened to their recording and it was the same thing.

It was because of this, and the fact that one of the people they actually muted at that meeting, and it wasn’t the first time they’ve done this to her, was State Senator Katie Muth.

To be clear, so no one is confused, this was not an executive session where they would have left the room. This was deliberation in public, and the public has a right to hear it.

So I sent a follow up email yesterday that I will share:

I realize nobody wants to talk to me because I’m against the data center, however, I contacted you in good faith on July 9, 2026. It was about the live stream/zoom/recordings of the meetings being deliberately MUTED in spots.

I asked then about your tech guys who record the meetings. I had contacted you July 9th because I have concerns about the fact that it’s subverting the public record and against sunshine laws when they mute things or edit out sound.

It came up again in conversation and I am including an excerpt that Ginny Kerslake pulled where you guys are literally deliberating in public and then the video guys cut the sound. Deliberations in public are supposed to be audible and the sound was cut in the whole room unless you were physically sitting in the room, you heard nothing.

And it’s from the same meeting in July that I contacted you about initially. And they did it again at the recent August meeting.

If they can remove the audio, they should be able restore it and you really should have them do that. And you shouldn’t let them do this going forward because it is a violation of sunshine laws.

Also note that sometimes when they have done that, you’ve actually muted our State Senator Katie Muth. And that has happened in the boardroom in the Township building and one of the times where the meetings were at Penn State when somebody turned off the microphones or took them away. I would have to go look at the video to remember which it was but I remembered there were wireless microphones.

Others are included on this email because we were talking about it. Why we were talking about it is because I’m not the only one noticing it number one, and number two if you were going to have executive session, you would’ve left the boardroom right?

If you care to reference the Sunshine Act, it’s section 704. I probably shouldn’t have to tell you guys that partially muting a meeting can indeed violate the Sunshine Act because it prevents the public from hearing deliberations that are in public and it also restricts public participation.

As of 2022, cutting the audio or muting part of a meeting that is viewed/heard online or via other telecommunications (some people dial in versus zoom on a computer or tablet) disrupts open public access.

You have a right to reasonably control your meetings as far as maintaining order and time limits on public comment, BUT this other stuff? Selective censorship is something that flies in the face of transparency and the whole concept of open meetings.

Thanks!

It’s also quite frankly, not an example of good government. I am still waiting for a reply. Since I did not receive one on July 9 or shortly thereafter, I’m also assuming I will not receive any kind of a reply that is meaningful now because what will they say? That they weren’t subverting sunshine when they were?

My final comment is they have not been doing this for just this July meeting. It’s been going on for a while. They did it again at the August meeting.

Whatever happens in that room that is being recorded and streamed and done over a Zoom or other platforms live you are supposed to hear it all. We are not hearing it all. It’s not a wedding video, they aren’t wedding videographers. If they can remove the audio, they can put it back. And they can stop doing this in the future, but my guess is they won’t do it until someone challenges it vis-à-vis the sunshine laws. And I think you have 30 days after a meeting to do that.

has franklin mint federal credit union been completely breached??

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It sure seems like the Franklin Mint Federal Credit Union’s website has been hacked doesn’t it? That is what 6ABC is saying too? How did they let THAT happen and maybe they want to say more than it’s having technical issues with their website?

I honestly don’t understand how any financial institution today can get themselves hacked. What is the implication for the customers? Is their information safe, etc.?

I get that they have no website or whatever but they can speak to their customers on as far as a statement, but maybe they need to release one to the media instead of playing possum? Where is the state banking commission on this?

https://6abc.com/post/consumer-alert-franklin-mint-federal-credit-union-website-troubles-prevent-customer-access/19732856/

FRANKLIN MINT FEDERAL CREDIT UNION WEBSITE TROUBLES PREVENT CUSTOMER ACCESS

By 6abc Digital Staff

Updated 22 minutes ago

PHILADELPHIA (WPVI) — A banking outage has many customers in Philadelphia’s tri-state area concerned.

Franklin Mint Federal Credit Union’s digital operations remain down Tuesday morning, stretching into a second day….Action News found that the main website shows an offer to buy the domain for $10,000 on GoDaddy.com.

the curious case of chaumont drive in radnor township

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I know very little of Chaumont drive other than it is off of Conestoga Road Villanova (Radnor Township) and properties back up to Newtown Road. Chaumont was once part of an estate or estates – again don’t know for sure, but it seems like 512 Chaumont Drive was the “big house” of it all when it was originally subdivided? That was the estate known as “The Peaks” and it was the personal residence of Arthur Ingersoll Meigs, a renown architect who designed among other things, Goodhart Hall at Bryn Mawr College. He was a partner in the firm Mellor and Meigs, which you will find in Radnor Historical Society archives. Mr. Meigs wife was Harriet Geyelin Meigs, a favorite of early 20th century society pages as she was among other things a debutante circa 1913 but I digress. All I know about this place is there was an estate sale/auction in 2024.

Anyway, infill development on Chaumont drive was late 20th century. Like 1970 through 2003. The home people are concerned about in the video I am about to share is 506 Chaumont Drive, which was a Robert Bruce build in the late 90s according to Philadelphia Magazine.

So the recent Radnor Township meeting had an item under “Old Business 6.A. Discussion on 506 Chaumont Drive Matter“. This was the August 17th meeting. There was no real presentation by the commissioners in Radnor, but there was significant comment by a resident of Chaumont Drive named Gregory Stagliano. Mr. Stagliano appears to be a retired attorney?

Main Line Media News only picked up Mr. Stagliano’s comments earlier in the meeting over the controversy surrounding a new proposed district court planned for it appears to be a more residential area in Radnor. A smart reporter would check out whatever from Chaumont Drive.

Public opposition to new district court in Radnor grows

However, I found Mr. Stagliano’s comments over the property circus on Chaumont courtesy of a Mr. Elebah who is his neighbor next door at 506 Chaumont more interesting perhaps? Mr. Elebah seems to be quite a business and real estate investor? So I am guessing he just wants to do what he wants to do?

Below are screenshots off of Google that show the property in question in 2012, 2023, and 2024. I also found the Philadelphia Magazine article about 506, and some real estate things.

https://www.phillymag.com/property/2015/05/12/villanova-luxury-homes-montangelica

https://www.redfin.com/PA/Villanova/506-Chaumont-Dr-19085/home/39144735

This house indeed used to have fabulous landscaping and why has it been scraped clean?

Google 2012
Google 2023
Google 2024
Old listing I found on Compass

Mr. Stagliano remarks in his comments how the township manager Bill White doesn’t seem to know his name? Does Mr. Township Manager know anyone’s name or actually help residents? Mr. Stagliano has been emailing Jack Larkin (AKA the one who likes eminent domain powers? Or is he better known for that whole Liberty University thing?)

Anyway, if you listen to the video which is an excerpt from the meeting, this house and it’s new dweller just makes you wonder doesn’t it? Like how does an property get scraped bare like that? The prior owners worked so hard on gardens.

I don’t get people who just clear lots of everything. Just do not.

The video also had Mr. Stagliano remarking about a property which abuts on Newtown Road having issues with this current owner of 506 Chaumont. If I can look up all of these properties, so can the media.

I quite simply do not get how Radnor Township can IGNORE so much?? In my opinion, which I can have, it looks terrible. And if neighbors are having issues in this upscale neighborhood, what gives Radnor Township? Supposedly this is mentioned in whatever The Radnor Gazette is, but I can’t find it?

I was also fascinated how checked out Radnor Township Manager Bill White appears?

I will also note I found reference to this 506 Chaumont in biggish Democrat fundraiser a few years ago? It was referred to as Elebah Manor? Seriously, it was publicly available on Facebook and Instagram, so were any Radnor Democrats at this event or just big Philly ones?

Maybe politics has nothing to do with this, but given the Philly presence is there a presumption on how things are done when you are a McMansion dweller who relocated from elsewhere to Radnor?

This is definitely a curiosity. But shall we start the odds on does Radnor actually do anything here? Is Kevin Kochanski the head of planning and zoning in Radnor when he is not off playing soldier of whatever retiring? I heard a rumor? This is his responsibility isn’t it? I mean how can he leave that poor codes man to deal with all of it? And what is up with Jack Larkin? If something is funky there on Chaumont Drive, does he not have the ability to act along with the rest of them?

This is very curious….but will anything happen? Will this be a case of whose property rights matter more? Will; this be a case of Radnor pussying out and saying the neighbors have to deal with this themselves? Is Radnor just trying to make this out to be a 2026 Hatfield vs. McCoys?

Time will tell.

east whiteland might listen but they don’t hear.

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Ginny Kerslake Photo

It is amazing as each day that goes by, East Whiteland Supervisor seem to dig their heels in more. They even have a State Senator telling them they need to act and not just contemplate their collective navels pretty much every single meeting.

They have people, including residents who have taken inordinate amount of time to show them where the flaws are, where the problems are, where the danger is and it’s like they’re paralyzed.

Once again last night, it was a lot of well we have things to think about.

I don’t understand the ostriches with their heads in the sand. Because this isn’t the first issue, this has happened over and over. I mean for how many years of people been coming to the Township not just about data centers but Bishop Tube which at last night‘s meeting got extended yet again and how many years is that? And Bishop Tube has no remediation done yet does it?

Anyway, I am going to give you videos of the voices of others. Listen to what they have to say.

Ask yourselves how one township can say they’re listening yet they never hear a thing?